Complaint Review: National Enterprise Systems - Solon Ohio
- National Enterprise Systems 29125 Solon Road Solon, Ohio U.S.A.
- Phone: 440-542-1360
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National Enterprise Systems Uses Illegal Practices to Collect Debts Solon Ohio
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I was contacted at 5pm on Wednesday, March 5th by an NES employee regarding an "urgent business matter". I returned the call because I was unsure who she was, what business she worked for and what the "urgent business matter" entailed. When I called back, I was NOT told by her that she was a "debt collector attempting to collect a debt and that any information obtained will be used for that purpose". She told me that NES wanted to work out a settlement for a credit card to which I agreed to hear. She told me that the creditor would settle for a smaller amount if I paid all of it by 9pm that day. I informed her I couldn't come up with that money. I was then told that if I didn't pay this settlement, paperwork was going to be filed in court tomorrow morning (Thursday, March 6th) and I was being sued. She then attempted to set up a payment plan with me and I acquiesced because of the fear of being taken to court. She then asked me to hold so she could get a manager on the line to approve a payment plan.
As I was holding, I could hear her conversation with a manager as they discussed the pending lawsuit against me. He asked her if she had informed me about my pending case. She then replied that I was on the line and he could speak directly to me. At this point, it was a three-way telephone conversation with myself, the manager and the employee.
The manager then told me the following:
I was being sued for the balance of my debt unless I came up with the money that night.
My account was sold to a group of lawyers that were going to sue me for the money owed.
That he refused to set up a payment plan with me.
The paperwork was going to be filed in court tomorrow unless I paid and that he didnt want to get any angry phone calls from parents or lawyers because it was going to court tomorrow unless I paid tonight.
I was sent a 60-day notice regarding this pending litigation and it wasn't his fault I chose to ignore it.
That they could put a lien on my vehicle and take my vehicle or any other of my assets to collect this debt.
That if I didn't pay and this went to court I would also be responsible to pay any attorney and court fees that the plaintiff incurred.
That I was in legal trouble with the state of South Carolina.
The manager wouldn't listen to me nor would he answer my questions. He raised his voice, threatened me with a lawsuit, misrepresented my financial account, lied about the details of my account, attempted to intimidate me and actually shouted at me. Finally, he yelled at me "You're in a lot of trouble and you better get a lawyer". Then he hung the telephone up on me.
A few minutes later she called me back and said "I was told to call you back". I then attempted to ask her questions regarding the lawsuit they said was being filed, which she would not answer. I asked her to speak to someone regarding the way I was harassed on the telephone and she said I already talked to the manager and that was it. She refused to connect me with someone else. She informed me to figure out a way to obtain the money and call her back before 9:00pm.
Roughly around 5:45, my mother phoned NES. She then put the manager on the phone and he revealed the following confidential information about my account to a third party WITHOUT MY CONSENT:
The current amount I owe.
The creditor I owe the money to.
The settlement I was offered.
The number of payments I made over the past year.
The fact that I purchased a car in the past year and they could take it away.
That they wouldnt offer me a payment plan because of my negligence.
That they have been calling me for the last 60 days trying to reach me.
The manager also informed my mother that paperwork for a lawsuit was going to court in the morning and that my account was sold to "a group of lawyers".
Later in the evening on Wednesday, March 5th, she called me again and told that she decided to "work with me" and set up a payment plan. She said I had to "call her directly" about the account. I asked her why all of a sudden did NES decide to work with me and she said because "I felt you were sincere and that you really want to pay this debt off". I again asked her to speak to someone regarding the harassment I endured and she again told me he was the manager. She would not connect me to anyone else. I told her I was in the car and I would call her when I got home to discuss the matter further.
I phoned her back when I arrived home and set up a payment plan for a settlement balance that was way out of my budget. She told me that unless I paid this amount, the paperwork was going to be filed in court in the morning. I asked her to send me a letter stating the settlement terms that was offered to me so I would have documentation. She refused saying she couldn't send me any paperwork until the last payment had been made.
After pondering what transpired, I called NES back to make a complaint. I was transferred to the Compliance Department where I spoke with another female employee. She was willing to listen to my issue and answer my questions. I asked her if she had access to my entire account and once she said she did, I asked her if the statements referenced above made by both the employee and the manager ere true:
She informed me that all of the above statements were FALSE. I'm not being sued, there is no paperwork going to court and if I was being sued, NES would not be the one contacting me to tell me. She also said she could send me a letter stating the settlement I discussed withthe employee, after th eemployee said she couldn't. She also informed me that she would cancel the payment plan I set up with the employee and set up payments that were affordable to me. She told me she altered my account so that I would not be contacted by another representative of NES.
It is glaringly apparent that NES and its employees and managers are in violation of numerous sections of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
Not only is it unacceptable for NES to utilize the procedures I have mentioned, it is also illegal. In further researching NES, I have learned that they have had several complaints lodged against them and that they have an unsatisfactory rating with the Better Business Bureau. I can only assume that the manner in which I was treated is standard operating procedure.
I'm calling again tomorrow to cancel all payments with them and making sure I get written documentation. I hope all goes well!
Leigh
Columbia, South Carolina
U.S.A.
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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds
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AUTHOR: Drew - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 13, 2008
I recently worked at this horrible place. National Enterprise Systems is the collection agency from hell. It's the devil's worst nightmare. Employees are trained to collect according to the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act but once on the floor in their respective departments collectors are told to forget everything they learned.
My supervisor, Bryan Howard under the alias of Paul Stevens, regularly provided a second voice to collectors having trouble closing collections. This idiot would identify himself to callers as a federal agent, an NES attorney, etc., anything to try to scare the debtor into paying. He would actually tell debtors and their spouses that a lawsuit had been filed and if the account is not paid by postdated check by a certain time that day a deputy of the court was coming to serve the debtor on his job. I witness this on a daily basis all day long. B. Howard is neither a federal agent, attorney nor any of the other things he claims to be and NES don't sue debtors. All are clear violations of the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act.
Debtors are talked to as if they're inhuman. Even when the debtor is not home the person taking the message is treated like dirt. I will never forgot my supervisor shouting at an 81 year old African-American woman for not getting a pen and paper to take the message. "I DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE 81 YEARS OLD HE SCREAMED AT THE WOMAN." I've witness collectors hollering at kids "GO GET YOUR FATHER."
You are not supposed to talk to spouses in certain states--about their significant others' debt unless given permission by the spouse to do so. This rule is ignored at NES. In fact when I left training I put the document about the spouse rule on my cubicle wall to reference only to have it snatched and trashed by Bryan Howard who said I wouldn't need it.
The owners Ernest Pollack, his wife, and two sons: Scott and pie-faced Chris are well aware of what is going on. These people are hands on owners. They constantly walk the call room floors, note the individual collectors and group collection sales and hear all the violations first hand. The more a collector screams at a debtor the more they like it. People actually clap and cheer when a collector goes off on a debtor. All that concerns these greedy money grabbers is how much money they are collecting at any given time.
Payments are demanded in full although they do offer settlements that are too demanded in full. Money orders and mail-in payments are not accepted, only postdated checks over-the-phone or Western Union Transfers for Citi Bank accounts. Some other creditors do allow NES to also take payment by credit card. For the postdated checks debtors are asked to give their accounting and routing numbers. NES, the scumbags they are, attempts to take the money out before the postdate. Nice company huh!
Collectors and supervisors once provided with bank info by the debtor call banks automated customer service numbers to obtain how much money they have in their accounts. We have their social security numbers so getting info this way is like taking candy from a baby. Some banks have safeguards against this and required you talk to a live person. They also work this wickedness on debtors' credit card accounts or the credit card accounts of the debtors' spouse, mother, father, etc. I remember one collector on the phone with a debtor saying Your Mother Has $7,000 On Her Card She Can Use; She Can Pay This Debt For You!
If anyone needs someone who's "been there" in any of their legal actions against this despicable company I'm your guy.


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