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Complaint Review: Oregon State Lottery - All Over Oregon

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  • Reported By: aaron — klamath fallls Oregon
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  • Oregon State Lottery All Over, Oregon USA

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Has anyone else out ther noticed that in or around about a year now that if you live in Oregon that the Oregon Lottery has tightened ther belt a little much.. I guess tighten doesnt best describe it more of less its sinched.. I know that not everyone can be a winner, and that the odds are against you the player by all means but i mean give me a break when it comes to paper scratch off tickets the higher the denominom a person goes you would think that the pay out or chances would increase with the risk... "by all means thats the wrong theory"..... with what i have seen in past sevreal months is that the tickets may say 3.63% 1 out of every 4 or roughly 75% payout but with my own eyes and people I have spoken with this phrase has no truth behind it...

So i asked myself i wonder if the smaller denomenom $ 1, 2, 3 dollar amount scratch it tickets have a better chance at winning and so i looked into it investing my own cash and knowing alot of other folks that went right along side with  was to test this theory and in the end find out that ther is a more likeely chance of winning but not by much usaully just getting your money back if that and it was very rare that a person would get lucky enough to win $100 dont get me wrong i love thie state that I live in but the OREGON LOTTERY is a scam if they only knew what it was doing to itself by all means the foul who plays has gotta pay.. and im all good with that but when i see a person drop a 50 spot on $5 scratch its= 10 scatch its and thers a payout off 75% and the person doesnt win a dime thers somthing F*CKED UP HERE and it really needs to be evaluated before its to late

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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Game of Chance or is it?

AUTHOR: Lynn - (United States)

POSTED: Thursday, May 24, 2018

The Oregon Lottery guy is not all wrong. Something wrong is going on in Oregon. It used to be you could go out gamble a little, have a good time, win, lose, or break even. Then something changed, I say Oregon got greedy as most politicians always do. The games became much more addictive with sophisticated virtual reel technology, the payouts seemed to get farther and farther in between and the biggest sign something is off is the regular gamblers began to get angry how bad it had become. I personally was a responsible gambler for decades and got out of control. Just saying, maybe there is more to the story here.

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I sympathize but your complaint lacks merit

AUTHOR: anotherpissedconsumer - ()

POSTED: Saturday, November 02, 2013

First of all I agree that the Oregon Lottery makes many more losers than winners. I also agree that their claims of odds, especially in their video gaming terminals are misleading if not outright deceptive. That being said read the fine print and know that the only way not to lose is by not playing.

Your claims as far as scratch tickets however are without merit. It comes down to your not understanding how odds work. In science ie... statistics when odds are given they are of a large data pool. The larger the data pool the more accurate odds. When the odds of 1:2.67 or 1:3.2 are given with a payout rate of 76% you could simplify that to roughly 33% or 1:3, furthermore you could tell yourself that means if you buy 3 tickets you will win one time and receive 76% of your money back however those odds are for the entirety of the game. Meaning every ticket sold for the game in the state of Oregon.

What you are presenting as evidence of a rigged game is called anecdotal evidence and it doesn't fly. The person who made the previous remark is correct. If you play long enough you will eventually lose because that's how the lottery works. 

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Another frustrated gambler?

AUTHOR: MochaG - ()

POSTED: Tuesday, July 23, 2013

I know that not everyone can be a winner, and that the odds are against you the player by all means but i mean give me a break when it comes to paper scratch off tickets the higher the denominom a person goes you would think that the pay out or chances would increase with the risk... "by all means thats the wrong theory"..... with what i have seen in past sevreal months is that the tickets may say 3.63% 1 out of every 4 or roughly 75% payout but with my own eyes and people I have spoken with this phrase has no truth behind it...

So i asked myself i wonder if the smaller denomenom $ 1, 2, 3 dollar amount scratch it tickets have a better chance at winning and so i looked into it investing my own cash and knowing alot of other folks that went right along side with  was to test this theory and in the end find out that ther is a more likeely chance of winning but not by much usaully just getting your money back if that and it was very rare that a person would get lucky enough to win $100 dont get me wrong i love thie state that I live in but the OREGON LOTTERY is a scam if they only knew what it was doing to itself by all means the foul who plays has gotta pay.. and im all good with that but when i see a person drop a 50 spot on $5 scratch its= 10 scatch its and thers a payout off 75% and the person doesnt win a dime thers somthing F****D UP HERE and it really needs to be evaluated before its to late.

I am wondered whether or not you are thinking you are very smart or you are really stupid? What does "lottery" mean to you? Is it a charity game? What does "probability with bias" mean to you? Also, how could you equate "3.63%" with "1 out of 4" or even with "75% payout"? They all have different factors involved and different bases. You attempt to generalize all the rules and probabilities, and for that reason you fail miserably to understand how it works.

I said it is a "probability with bias" because there are certain unknown factors that could easily be manipulated even though these factors are supposed to be left alone. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to prove that it is being manipulated. Why? Let's use your example. Your experiment is considered as a local, so the samples used in your experiment is NOT qualified to be considered as a whole. The "whole" means all of the area covered by the lottery. You will need to select and go to at least (equally spread out) 30 towns where lottery is being sold all across OR state (in a normal distribution, the result of distibution after sample size of 30 is not much different from the result using the size of 30). Each town, buy a certain number of lotteries (but must be the same number for each location) and check for results. If you could do that, you then have a base experiment to show whether or not the lottery is a valid probability game (no bias).

To say to those who are addicted to lottery, think twice or trice before spending your money on it. If you lose your money, don't complain or mad. The game is obvious and well known in its purpose that you have a much higher chance to lose more than you gain because it is set up that way. The more you spend may increase your odd, but remember that the higher odd you get will never be worth while compared to the amount you lose. Whenever you win, you are enticed by the prize you got and you will end up losing it all if you keep trying again and again. NO, LOTTERY IS NOT A SCAM, but it is a "legal" GAMBLE (probability) game.

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