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Complaint Review: Verizon Wireless - Bellevue Washington

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  • Verizon Wireless P.O. Box 96088 Bellevue, Washington U.S.A.

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I have been a Verizon Wireless customer for six or more years now, unfortunately for me. Last year, my fiance and I "upgraded" to the Family Share Plan with 800 "Anytime" minutes per month, for $59.99 per month for the primary line and an additional $20 per month for the secondary line, plus $10 per month for each line for unlimited "IN" calling.

We also foolishly purchased the "Asurion" phone insurance for $4.99 per month for each phone. A month afterward, the insurance went up to $5.99/month per phone. And yet, two weeks ago while I was at a local Verizon store attempting to get my defective phone replaced, the brochure I was handed listed the insurance price at $4.99/month. Very interesting, I thought.

Incidentally, when I went to the Verizon store to request a replacement phone, I was at first told by an extremely rude salesperson, that I would have to call "Asurion" and file an insurance claim. After an hour of refusing to let Verizon walk all over me, they finally agreed to mail me a replacement phone, which came four days later.

Ever since signing up for Family Share, our typical monthly phone bill has been over $200. We have had monthly bills of over $400 and even $500. At some point in the past, Verizon stopped providing the phone numbers for incoming phone calls. Each month, they list dozens upon dozens of incoming calls to both myself and my fiance that we know darned good and well we did not receive, and the minutes for those "fake" calls are deducted from our 800 "Anytime" minutes. Then we get charged $0.45 per minute for "going over our monthly allowance of 800 Anytime minutes."

We are also billed for outgoing calls that we did not make, either. Every single month, it's whopping "Usage Charges" and sometimes even "Roaming Charges." I have been paying and paying and paying through the nose and finally got fed up. I sent Verizon an email via their website demanding that I be sent detailed call lists for incoming and outgoing calls to my account for 2005. I told them that I know that they are ripping me off. The condescending email I received stated (copied and pasted directly from Verizon's email to me):

"To ensure the privacy of the calling party, the number of the person calling you is not supplied on any of our bills. All incoming calls will be displayed on your statement as your own wireless number. If you would like this information it may be subpoena by law, and we will be more than happy to provide the information you are requesting."

A subpoena??? Give me a break!!! How is this any different from a credit card company sending me a bill with unidentified purchase charges on it, and refusing to give me any details about the alleged purchase, while demanding that I pay the bill anyway???

I wrote back to Verizon, informed them that I have filed a complaint with our state Attorney General's office, and also that I have made inquiries to two different lawyers about the legality of their billing practices. I again demanded that they provide me with a list of all incoming calls to my account. They completely ignored that email, other than the automated response letting me know that my email was received by Verizon. It's been six days, no response. I sent them a third email about 14 or 15 hours ago. So far, no response.

Anybody filing a Class Action against Verizon??? Let me in on it!!!

Mary
Salem, Oregon
U.S.A.

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#7 Consumer Comment

Donald in FL

AUTHOR: Pete - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 04, 2006

'recently telemarketers got the right to call cell phones.' This is correct only for phones which are listed in a directory, similar to white/yellow pages for landlines. However, the owner of the cell phone has to request to be listed. This would be an advantage for businesses who wish to have their cell phone numbers available to others who have access to this directory. The Do Not Call Registry is for landlines only. So don't worry that a telemarketer can call you on your cell--unless you've requested to be listed. BTW, there is a charge for the listing.

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#6 Consumer Comment

For M in Winston-Salem

AUTHOR: Mary - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 04, 2006

Dear M,

I switched to the FamilyShare plan in March 2004. At some later point, Verizon began offering unlimited IN calling for free, although I was paying $10 per month per line for unlimited IN calling. They also began offering a second line for $9.99 per month, instead of the $20 monthly I was paying. I was aware that I could obtain the "new" benefits, but only if I were willing to extend my contract, which I was not.

The people who have responded before to my initial posting tend to accuse me of trying to "get out of paying my phone bill" by claiming I did not receive the disputed incoming calls. Au contraire. When my phone bill suddenly began to escalate into the hundreds of dollars per month due to "overages," I began logging my phone calls daily and comparing the logs to the bills I was receiving. And sometimes that wasn't even necessary---some of the incoming calls I was being charged for were in the middle of the night, or during a time when I was in a meeting with my phone shut off or not on my person, etc. This eventually led me to address the situation directly with Verizon who, as I've said before, told me that I could not be given the phone numbers of incoming calls without a subpoena. And yes, I am aware that starting in October Verizon started disclosing incoming numbers on the bill.

Regarding getting my phone replaced, no, I was NOT trying to get Verizon to do something that should have been handled by Asurion. The phone, an expensive model which I hadn't had very long, began to malfunction. It was not dropped, run over, stolen, flushed down a toilet, or any of the things that Asurion would cover. It was a defective phone which I had an extended warranty on and Verizon, NOT Asurion, was responsible for replacing it. Unlike many people out there, I have never once in the ten years that I've had a cell phone, ever lost it, dropped it, had it stolen, driven over it, any of those things.

You made more than one incorrect assumption in your posting.

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#5 Consumer Suggestion

I see the confusion....

AUTHOR: M - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 03, 2006

Mary, when exactly did you switch over to the Family Share Plan? The reason why I want to know is because I have the same exact plan you have, but only less minutes (I only have 500 minutes vs. your 800).

The Family share plan INCLUDES unlimited "IN" calling (which IS the mobile-to-mobile, meaning unlimted to other VERIZON customers only, NOT to any mobile phone number) because the other number that is "in the family" is a Verizon customer.

As for the insurance on the phones, the representative at the store was correct, regardless of how rude they were to you. You MUST pay Asurion in order to replace the phone since it is NOT Verizon who insures the phone. What you were wanting to do was for Verizon to replace the phone. That's like paying your car payment to a car company and you pay Geico for insurance...then fussing at the car dealership to replace your car when an accident happens. Neither the representative at the store, nor Verizon were walking all over you....you just didn't want to call the insurance company yourself to file the claim for the phone.

Furthermore, Asurion's rate HAS INCREASED by $1.00 on most wireless carriers due to the increasing cost of cell phones and the frequent of replacement phones by customers.

As for the roaming calls, have you reprogrammed your phone at least ONCE per month (*228 SEND)? It updates your roaming capabilities. If you don't regularly reprogram your phone, you may be charged roaming charges you don't have to be charged.

As for Verizon NOT showing incoming calls, they don't have to. As Brandy said, they JUST began doing that about two months ago or so. As for them charging for incoming calls, they CAN do so. Minutes are used whether calls are incoming or outgoing on cell phones. On landline numbers, it's different because of Long-Distance companies...whoever calls is using THEIR Long-Distance company.

I would call Verizon's customer service line (611 from your Verizon phone) to see exactly WHAT your Family share plan includes.

Hope what i said explains some things.

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#4 Consumer Comment

Verizon and other cellular companies shouldn't be double billing

AUTHOR: Donald - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 03, 2006

Many of the complaints are about overcharges and lack of call detail to determine if incoming calls were actually accurate.
We need to fight double charging. With landline phones I NEVER get a charge for a call that I receive.
That practice by cellular providers is absurd. If you call forward your calls to your cellular phone so as to not miss an important call, you are liable for all incoming calls. Also, recently telemarketers got the right to call cell phones. You must call the DO NOT CALL REGISTRY and include all cell phones for this to be illegal.
I don't understand why people are not outraged by these practices and don't complain to their State Legislatures and to Congress.
Are we only worried about the baseball players using steroids?
Let's get together and make sure that bank robbery and phone theft get proper hearings in Congress.

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

incoming calls blocked

AUTHOR: Brandy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, November 07, 2005

Are you aware that as of Oct 10 th Verizon is no showing incoming call detail? As long as the number isn't restricted you can see it. Then people who refuse to accept that they made all those calls have no more excuses! But I am sure for someone who refuses to believe OUTGOING calls were made from their phn will still find some way to thing they are getting ripped off.. By the way.. Current pricing offers 1400 minutes for 89.99 for 2 lines and has unlimited mobile to mobile (which you are still foolishly paying 10.00 for). maybe you should look at getting a plan that will fit your needs.. You do realize when you are on a family share plan you SHARE the peak minutes, you don't EACH get 800 minutes.. But I am sure you have called and been advised of this new plan but refused becuase you didn't want to extend your contract.. Thats ok though..keep paying $500 a month, More money for their employee bonus!!!!

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

New Plan, Doesn't Mean Better

AUTHOR: Cory - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, September 29, 2005

Have been with sprint for 5 or 6 years. Every time we get new phones they try like hell to talk us into going into going with one of their new, "better" plans. Better for whom. 4000 minutes, 360 daytime, 7-7, 3600, nighttime and weekends, 7pm to 7 am. But they keep telling us we'd get "free" nighttime and weekends. The only deal is the nights/weekends start at 8 or 9 pm. In all those years we've only gone over by a couple of minutes for a dollar or two. Stick with what you know and what works for you.

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#1 Consumer Comment

they are correct

AUTHOR: Carl - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, September 29, 2005

they are not required by law to give you the numbers to incoming calls. and the fact is very true that they require a subpena to give you them.

If you ever had landline, you would notice that they do not show incoming calls.

I wonder if your wife is making more calls or are you talking to each other more? You may want to get mobile to mobile calls and that should help.

I still wonder why the consumer refuses to accept that he made the calls?

I still think you should change your plan to add mobile to mobile and that should reduce your calling charges.

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