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Report: #171515

Complaint Review: BearCountry Vacations - Los Angeles California

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  • BearCountry Vacations 8721 Santa Monica Blvd Los Angeles, California U.S.A.

BearCountry Vacations ripoff Los Angeles California

*Author of original report: This is almost a perfect Scam!!!

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I also tried to purchase a vacation with bearcountry vacations. Was told to give them (3) different dates in which I would like to take my vacation. Was told that dates were not available. Gave (3) more dates and was told not available. If they could not provide you with dates available you are intitled to get your money back. Tried to contact bearcountry vacations for my deposit back and found out they were no longer in business. Basically they stole my money with no intention of giving a refund.

Using the internet I also found the same fax number being used by the following company in a Better Business Bureau report from Canada:

BBB Reliability Report
The Better Business Bureau
Serving Mid-Western & Central Ontario
354 Charles Street East
Kitchener, ON N2G 4L5

Total Refrigeration Limited
6533 Roszell Rd
RR #21
Cambridge, ON N3C 2V3
Telephone: (519) 651-0278
Fax: (310) 507-0159
www.totalrefrigeration.com

I don't know if related but I will investigate some more.

Also investigating memberships this outfit claimed, "We are members of OSSN, CLIA, TRUE maintained by IATAN and
Square Trade Travel Verified as well as registered sellers of Travel in the State of California."

SquareTrade hasn't responded yet, the state of California has no records for them under Bearcountry or Patricia Anderson.

Stephen
Tewksbury, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

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#1 Author of original report

This is almost a perfect Scam!!!

AUTHOR: Stephen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 13, 2006

Think about it. You see a vacation for 2, all inclusive, 7 nights/8 days for $1500.00, and you have up to 5 years to use it.

Whip out the Credit Card and you're off. The seller contacts you with congratulations and states that they are only the advance booking agent, they only need $60.00 per person and refund the rest of the money to you, you get credit for $1380.00, that you will need to pay directly to the travel agent. You come away with great service, prompt refund, all around good deal.

The next contact is telling you that they are sending you the advance contract forms, that assure you of your upcoming vacation, just fill them out and send $65.00 per person ($130.00 also being deducted off the $1380.00 total owed). So, $1250.00 is owed when you finalize the dates and itinerary. Now, because you aren't going to use the vacation immediately, time is not of the essence.

The problem so far is the initial monies ($120.00) are most likely past the time you can get a refund, 30-90 days. And truthfully why would you want a refund, there are no apparent problems. The second payment is just a small down payment, again no apparent problem, you have almost 5 years to complete this deal.

Now, you have to pick multiple weeks and departure airports to fulfill your end of the signed contract. Send them off with the knowledge that you will not be notified of availability until 45-60 days prior to the first departure date. By this time the second payment of $130.00 is well outside of any stop payments, credit card fraud or any other recourse.

If you receive an itinerary, you send the $1250.00 and in 45-60 days you are on your way, OOPS, the airline/hotel overbooked, can we place you on your 2nd choice which is another 60+ days out, sure-why not, in this far. The check clears, you don't have an itinerary and no recourse......

So from the first sale to the first complaint is at least 6 months later. If these 2 "agents" sell 2 vacations per day/7 days per week for 6 months= $91,000.00, on only the "down payments". Pay off the first few complaints, send back forms not filled out properly, ignore a few more and now it's 9 months later, start sending out the itinerary's and collecting that money and by the end of the year you've scammed the $182,000.00 minus the couple of dozen "refunds", plus the last 3 months of "itinerary " payments, even at 1 per day = $112,500.00. WOW, $300,000.00 and you probably only have less than a dozen complaints, some refunded and others completely screwed.

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