Kis Golf And Country Club Suckered us out of $8,475.00 for a golf membership package. Concord North Carolina

They are still Kis people. George McGill puts the company in friends names and starts over. He's filed bankruptcy over 4 dozen times in 20 years.

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kis members, employees are banning together

Which location did you work at i was a member at the kis golf in Kennesaw Ga. A friend and fellow member went by the store there and talked to the owner of that location who stated he and his employess were unaware that this was going to happen. He state that was out of close to 150,000 and was going to attempt to keep the store and change the name if the main company doesnt help. not sure how that would work out. I just wont out!!!

Which location did you work at i was a member at the kis golf in Kennesaw Ga. A friend and fellow member went by the store there and talked to the owner of that location who stated he and his employess were unaware that this was going to happen. He state that was out of close to 150,000 and was going to attempt to keep the store and change the name if the main company doesnt help. not sure how that would work out. I just wont out!!!

If so please let me know I am an ex employee and will help in any way

I too was ripped off in kennesaw, ga
please let me know if anyone has any info on this. I joined 8/22/08 got 2 sets of clubs and took 2 lessions. I just recieved a letter stating there are no locations left and no employees are anywhere to be found. Im trying to dipsute the charges because I paid for services I did not recieve. Ge should be responsible for letting this company or allowing it to steal from people. Please anyone with info on a possible law suit or attorney info on this case please email me

Well golly Mitchell, look who has on eggs on his face. That would be you. Way to go on defending this company and good luck with your lifetime golf membership. I will be waiting for your oh so insightful quip as a response. Or I may make the prediction that I will in fact never read any of your stupid responses on here again because you are a sheep. Big business looks out for big business. Watch the news my friend. Remember our little conversation about the morality of driving SUVs? Guess which car companies are on the brink of bankruptcy!? The ones that build your favorite model. And guess which executives drive SUVs? You guessed it! The top execs at KIS Golf. The same ones who have no moral compass. The same ones who were still selling "memberships" hours before getting kicked out of their mall locations for not paying rent.

To any one who may read this. Find all my posts and you will read that I have been spot on about this scam from the moment they called me. Thank you Jesus for RIPOFF REPORT!!!

Chris. R
Dallas

ps.and to my friend pondering contract law; who is going to hold KIS Golf to the fire concerning their breach of contract to all their members? Contracts do not seem to be worth the paper they are printed on.

Simon Mills has evicted Kis out of thier malls, too bad they were still selling membership less than hours before the midnight evacuation.

In the Carolinas the only 2 ways out of a contract are real estate recissionary periods and in home door to door sales

Sure wish the OP would say what finally happened

There is a question concerning the timetable and method of your attempted withdrawal from your contract. Did you send your cancellation in writing or did you just call or visit the store?

Most states have laws that allow you to cancel written contracts covering the purchase of certain goods or services within a few days of signing. Many states have laws that allow you to cancel contracts for health club memberships, dating services, weight loss programs, dance or martial arts lessons, time share properties, hearing aids, etc. Call your state consumer protection agency to find out what contracts, if any, are covered in your state. This information may be too late, and certainly not the type of information that KIS Golf wants consumers to know about.

In general, you may cancel within three days of signing a contract, but it must be mailed before midnight of the third day. However, it seems that if you called the store the next day, they had the option to accept your withdrawal over the phone. So, I do not think that I am "so wrong." It depends on your state.
I think that is the issue.

KIS Golf could just void the contract if someone notifies them the next day, (legal or not legal) but that would make the hard sales tactics worthless.

The majority of the complaints about KIS is the hard sell and these weird contracts. If they would just sell clubs, they would not need a contract. Instead they bundle in these lessons like it is a membership. If I wanted to join a golf club, I wouldn't go to a mall.

But I could be wrong.

CR

"In the U.S. you are in fact allowed to back out of a signed contract within three working days. It varies from state to state. You see Mitchell, this is why KIS Golf lost in court."

Three day right of recission only applies to real estate, not cars, or memberships etc etc.

Why has the OP not replied with an update to there court visit? Probably was appealled and lost.

I am not associated with this company or anything to do with golf.

Once again Mitchell,

In the U.S. you are in fact allowed to back out of a signed contract within three working days. It varies from state to state. You see Mitchell, this is why KIS Golf lost in court.

Do you own a house Mitchell? In your paperwork, their should have been a clause concerning your right to in fact cancel the terms of the contract within three days of closing. This is why your finance officer does not send in payment until three days after closing.

So let me ask you, Mitchell, why is it perfectly legal to back out of a contract for $200,000.00, but not $8475.00?

"To file a complaint based on the fact that you are blaming someone else for not letting you out of a contract that you signed. Thats just ridiculous."

Once again Mitchell, you have failed to see the ethical grounds, and, in this case, legal grounds that most people understand when signing binding contracts. It seems like only you and KIS Golf just don't get it. Maybe the two of you are blinded by money. I would say greed, but that is a sin. Ridiculous.

The issue is simple: if KIS Golf wants to sell a product, then allow people to purchase the product with their own finances. Why does KIS not allow for this? They are pulling people's credit, (which messes with their score by the way), opening a new line of credit, (at what rate I have no idea), and letting them walk out without having to spend a dime. Wow, a ZERO down loan. What a horrible idea. That KIS does this over and over should show you that they are fleecing their "customers." When the customer realizes how they just got taken, they do what everyone has the right to do. There is no such thing as "all sales are final." This is why KIS opens a new line of credit, because if you simply purchase this product on your own credit card, you can dispute the charges. Another red flag is that there seems to be no set price on this "product" KIS Golf is selling. The price seems to be determined on how large or small the new line of credit is for each individual. Ridiculous.

Mitchell, do you know what a credit score is? Do you know yours? I know mine. It is averaged out between the three major sources to be in the 800s. Do you understand that people rely on their credit score to get loans, to get decent rates, to get jobs, etc? Why would anyone allow their credit score to be harmed? Ridiculous.

What I am most interested in is your motivation to defend KIS Golf. ?? Why do you fight for the over-dog? Why would you refer to someone's legal right to annul a contract as being "ridiculous?" Who are they to blame for not letting them out of this contract? Who do you think they should blame? Themselves? What is it about money that makes a business think they can operate under a different set of rules and regulations?

Why do you not admit that you have a vested interest in KIS Golf? Ridiculous.

Please respond with more nonsense concerning your distorted view of ethical and legal behavior.

Your friend and mentor,

CR

As consumers we all understand buyers remorse, but to file a complaint based on the fact that you are blaming someone else for not letting you out of a contract that you signed. Thats just ridiculous.