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Report: #797867

Complaint Review: UPS - Atlanta Georgia

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  • Reported By: Ashley — Tampa Florida United States of America
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  • UPS 55 Glenlake Parkway NE Atlanta, Georgia United States of America

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The small business that I work for in Florida recently purchased a very large item from a seller in Michigan who put us in charge of the shipping. The seller estimated the weight and size of the shipment for me and I called UPS to set up shipment--the first of several calls that went nowhere.

I had never set up a shipment from another location to come to me, but before I could barely explain, I was told to go to the UPS website, and that was just about all the person was willing to tell me. So I did, and ended up setting up a ground shipment that, of course, wouldn't work because the package was way too big. That was my mistake, I admit, but I had no idea I had another option AND the website form let me put in that the package weighed 200lbs with no qualms.

So I then found out I needed to ship freight. This was new to me and I didn't want to make any further mistakes, so I called UPS Freight. Again, go to the website, they said. So I do that. Then I decided I still needed to call someone. On my third try I actually spoke with a very helpful woman who took my information and actually listened when I said, "I've never shipped freight before nor have I ever shipped TO my location." She set up delivery and gave me a quote for a little over $300 which I thought was a lot, but I didn't complain--I was just happy to be finally on the road to getting my shipment. I asked her if I needed to do anything else because I was wholely in charge of this shipment and the people at the shipping address were not involved beyond putting the thing in a box. She assured me she had everything taken care of and the driver would just have the shipper sign.

The next day I get a call from the shipper--UPS freight came, but wouldn't take the box because he (the shipper) had no paperwork. NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT PAPERWORK. I called UPS Freight again and, you guessed it, they told me to go to the website. This time it made sense because I needed paperwork, but the person on the phone rushed me off. I printed out what I neded and started to fill it out, but I was unsure what I had to declare on the paperwork exactly--there were numerous fill in boxes for hazardous materials and so forth and I didn't want to miss anything vital. So AGAIN I called UPS Freight. I told them I was filling out their "Bill of Lading" and needed some help because I wanted to make sure I was doing this correctly and to their standards. The person on the phone simply said "put the addresses on it" and that was about it. I told her I had been given a quote, but she insisted the addresses were all I needed. After doing this and checking "COD" which no one explained, but I figured out on my own, I faxed this paperwork to the shipper. It finally shipped.

A few days later I got a voicemail from UPS that I had missed my delivery and I needed to call them to set up another one and I would need to pay $765 upon delivery. I thought I must have heard wrong, called them right back. I spoke with someone who told me there was a $40 notification fee and $90 redelivery fee for missing the delivery which I had an issue with to begin with because our office was open that day and nothing had come. Since 327+40+90 does not equal 765, I asked where the extra fee came from. I knew in my quote that they had given us an "introductory discount" so I figured it hadn't been applied since I couldn't make note on the bill of lading that we had been given that. The person I spoke with told me the package had been reweighed, it was 70lbs heavier, so now it cost me apparently ALMOST DOUBLE. She told me if I had an issue I'd have to call UPS Frieght, and gave me the generic 800 number. I did, spoke with someone who barely spoke English, and said she would put in a complaint for me and that UPS would call me back by 1 o'clock the next day--on their time, of course.

So I waited. At 12:50 the next day I got a call--on time, I suppose. The woman that I was now speaking with was annoyed right off the bat. I imagine her job is not terribly fun, but I started out VERY pleasent with her and basically told her I was upset with how my entire experience had been handled. She retorted with heavy sighs and a very pissy tone that she was "sorry" but I DID miss the delivery and they had it on GPS that the driver was there. I tried explaining politely that I was both in the office that day (one suite of many which they could have mistaken), and that I was really upset by the fact that no one ever helped me when I called and now this price was more than double my quote and wanted to know how that happened without notifying me.

She acted like I was totally out of line, "Well, it was reweighed!" So I got upset and was not very nice right back. I asked her how was I supposed to pay the driver when he showed up to deliver the package more than twice what I was quoted? How was that ethical? I didn't own the company and it wasn't my money to spend. She said, "You JUST told me someone called you about the delivery." I felt like I was speaking with a preteen. I then had to explain again that that was the call that I had missed it--no one EVER called me to set up the initial delivery. She got very quiet, I could here her clicking around on her computer, then said she was sorry and that it must have "slipped through the cracks" that we didn't get the initial call to set up delivery and let us know about the increased price. She then told me her hands were tied and the price was what the price was. And she was basically done with me. Even though THEY messed up and never called me, we were still getting charged the added fees.

The driver came the next day and we shelled out $765 for them to ship a 250lb package from Michigan to Florida. And get this, someone along the line said that without the discount for being a first time user, it would have cost OVER $1000! At least they made SOME of that back by "accidentally" not telling me about the shipment and then charging me an extra $130 dollars to "redeliver" it. Lovely.

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Update: They called me back

AUTHOR: Ashes - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 04, 2012

Hey, I'm the OP.

It's been a while, but I just thought to update and my problem has only been "resolved" a few weeks ago anyway.

I filed a complaint with the BBB to get some resolution with UPS, and they had someone at UPS call me.  The man I spoke with was very polite and allowed me to explain the whole situation which I did.  At this point I wasn't mad anymore, just confused:

How can a company charge me to notify and redeliver to me when they did not notify me in the first place after they stated that they were supposed to, but it "slipped through the cracks?"

The man I spoke with understood and, after taking my information, said he would contact the local office and call me back.  A couple weeks went by and he did in fact call me back and told me he was having the local guy call me and settle everything after assuring me there would be no problem refunding the re-delivery and notification fees.  Within a few hours someone from the local office called me.  O man.

The person I spoke to was immediately defensive.  He told me right away that they were not refunding the re-delivery and went on to tell me that he knew the truck came and no one was here because he was in charge of the route that day (he'd just been bumped up to manager) so it was my fault and I should be thankful he was willing to refund the notification fee.  I asked him how it was my fault that no one notified me that the package was coming in the first place, at least to tell me about the reweighing fee as they said was their policy, but he didn't seem to understand the logic.  He didn't seem to understand the English language either, but...ya know.

He insisted that they had to pay for the gas to redeliver and for the salary of the guy to do so (apparently the cost to make the notification call and the salary of the person who called me didn't matter as much) which, yes, I understood, but I asked how it made sense to charge the customer when the company makes a mistake, but again, he insisted he still had to pay those people, mistake or not (way to admit it, bro) and he was not refunding me.

I did get rather frustrated, I admit, and told him quite angrily to just forget it because he was wasting a lot of my time--I had to try and explain a few times, but he insisted people had to be paid.  I guess he's right, right?

Also, I can't blame the sender because my boss, who ordered the product, had already agreed to buy it on the terms that we would set up shipping, so I couldn't very well call and tell them to do it because it had been decided and agreed upon already.

As of today, I haven't received any kind of refund or heard back from them.  But what's it matter to the juggernaut that is UPS to lose just one small business?  Not worth anything, and certainly not $130.

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#4 Consumer Comment

UPS SUCKS BIG TIME

AUTHOR: Bishop Harry - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 27, 2011

UPS are the most dishonest crooks, they tell you one thing and bill another.  They run the largest shipping scam in North America.

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#3 Consumer Comment

UPS

AUTHOR: mr rik - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, December 19, 2011

Just Plain Sucks...

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Shipping Issues

AUTHOR: kellyb30083 - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, December 15, 2011

I am a shipping manager at my job - and have been for 7+ years.  I find it strange that the seller did not help set up shipping in some way... Even when I have a customer who chooses to use their own freight company, I still set it up for them by doing the paperwork, submitting weight, class, description and pallet size.

I also use UPS on a daily basis but would NEVER use UPS freight.. for the very reasons you mentioned in your posting.  They have drivers (even with UPS ground) who claim to have made an attempted delivery when they did not.  They are able to just log it in with their handheld devices - yes they are GPS however.. they could come to your area, and just click the box that an attempt was made and not even bother.  If they get lost, etc.. they get frustrated and just mark it as an attempt. 

I'm sorry you had such a problem but your seller should have shouldered some responsibility for the shipping - that is ridiculous!!

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#1 Consumer Comment

Your real complaint

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, November 14, 2011
The seller estimated the weight and size of the shipment for me
- The seller was WRONG, that is not the fault of UPS or you for that matter. 

Through the rest of the report it sounds like more mis-communication than RipOff.  Where for what ever reason the Seller was trying to push of responsibility that is traditionally theirs onto you.

Unless there is some reason they want to distance themselves from this shipment, there is absolutely no reason why they couldn't go on line and set up the COD Shipment to you.   But if it is a case where they wanted to distance themselves that should be a huge red flag that something may come back on you or your company.
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