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Complaint Review: Shasta Pools - Phoenix Arizona

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  • Shasta Pools 3750 W Indian School Rd Phoenix, Arizona U.S.A.

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We bought a new Pulte home and they recommended a Shasta pool. Of course, Pulte Mortgage will also now only finance a Shasta pool in their contract ( this is what they told me when I was applying for my home loan). I guess there is some money exchange there... Meanwhile, we decided to go with the Shasta product because of the name and reputation of the company. We could not have been more WRONG.

We had a previous pool, twice the size as this Shasta pool, built by Presidential about 8 years ago without a hitch. This pool is half the size and cost 25K, but we still decided to do it. After Shasta proclaimed the pool finished, we notice a multitude of errors for them to address. The decking was totally screwed up, in that the pavers were uneven, corners were squared off, and the grouting was coming out (and still is to this day).

After a few months of them trying to correct these mistakes, we noticed the pool finish was turning grey. This was the 3M "Crystalcrete" recommended to us from the sales staff, and was demonstrated on a showroom pool they had on site as well. After months of them trying to get the grey out of the finish, they finally decided to re-finish the NEW POOL. Keep in mind we still have not used this 25K money pit to date, even though we were paying for it big time.

This pool was drained four times due to Shasta's incompetence thus far, and now it's going to be emptied again and re-surfaced. Shasta had dumped about 30 gallons of acid and other chemicals into the pool to try to "leach" the grey out of the 3M finish, but to no avail. I argued the point that this was extremely harmful to the equipment, seals, etc. but they turned a deaf ear.

Now they go to refinish the pool, i am told about 5 days total. It's been 4 weeks and the pool is still empty - they screwed it up AGAIN. It will be at least 6 weeks before this is completed, once again all due to their incompetence.

The crew made an absolute mess out of the pool, pool deck, tile, and even left cardboard boxes in the pool on top of the new finish (they used them to walk on inside the pool) that left stains on bottom! Of course, Mike Mitchell of Shasta pools defends this crew telling me they've been with him for twenty years and never "blew a job". Well, Mike, there's always a first time.

According to Mike Mitchell, the cardboard that I and four witnesses saw being used by the crew in the pool had "blown into the pool after the crew left". He told me this crew used spike shoes and at no time put cardboard on the floor of the pool to walk on it. I guess we all were seeing things that day. He basically called me a liar and that I fabricated everything, even though I have witnesses AND I kept the cardboard - in my garage if he wants to see it himself. At that point I told him I will from this day forward videotape all activity when his "professional staff" are on my property.

To add fuel to the fire, we told them to NOT re-apply the faulty 3M product back into our pool and instead told the we wanted "Shasta Sand" which is their house brand of Pebble Tec. We were talked into handing them another $1,200 to cover the "upgrade" fee since it was not the original finish. So much for customer service. You know, not ONCE did they offer to take care of us from a customer service point of view for all of the inconvenience of not being able to use our new pool, not once. What Mr. Mitchell did do is call me a liar. His disrespect of the customer would get him fired from my company in a heartbeat.

If I could post pictures here I would, you would be amazed at he amature job I was handed for a re-finish. Interior finish is all over the place, the tile surround and grouting is coated with the stuff, it is all over the decking, and piles of old finished can be found throughout the landscaping area. It's a flipping mess. Something else Mr. Mitchell disagrees with, but it is there for all to see!

This isn't done yet. And Shasta, if you really want to keep your reputation, you need to get rid of disrespectful employees that belittle customers. What kind of customer service is this? My wife and I plan on making a personal visit to the home office in Phoenix with the cardboard boxes in hand for an audience with this Mike Mitchell guy and his superiors. I will not stand to be disrespected further, and I will demand something be done to compensate us for a pool we are paying for and to this day cannot use - almost a year coming up soon.

Barry
Mesa, Arizona
U.S.A.

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AUTHOR: Max - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 05, 2009

Berry,

I am an ex-employee of Shasta Pools and I just read your report.

Did you get a chance to speak to the owner "Skip" Ast ?

The construction Department is under one of two sons, Jeff Ast.
Sales is under the other son, Steve Ast. I do know that both will meet with you at your home if need be. Skip will respond if you write him a letter.

The crew only will wear spikes at the time they are applying the Finnish to the pool.
I cant tell from your report at what phase did the crew use cardboard to step on in the pool? also-the Acid will not damage the pool equipment as you had stated, all the internals in the equipment can take the acid without harm.

Only helping here.

Good Luck.

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AUTHOR: Barry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, March 06, 2008

Well, it's been a few more weeks, and frankly we could have had an entire pool installed by now. The STELLAR interior crew (as self proclaimed by Mike Mitchell in Phoenix) that does not make mistakes was proven to have made several gross negligent errors in applying the new finish. They covered up outlets for water flow in the pool, specifically the deck chlorinator, and applied the new finish to the tile surround as well. Funny thing that Mr. Mitchell will not take my phone calls, nor obligate himself to a personal visit to my home under my several invitations. I guess he's got that "corporate America" syndrome that has all but destroyed out country's working class - he's got what companies want - a "Yes Man" attitude with his company and a "No Can Do" attitude toward the customers. Typical. We've seen this for the past 7 years. Anyway, politics aside, there is ONE MAN who has championed the fix, flying under the radar of Mike Mitchell to try to get the job finished, the right way.

Meanwhile, we have not been compensated one iota for the lack of usage of our pool, the pool we are paying $350+ dollars a month for. We should be able to use it this summer. Is it not amazing how Shasta can hold you hostage, doing the bare minimum required by law (AZ) without any regard to their reputation and customer service? I will voice my displeasure of Shasta in Phoenix any chance I can get, both public and private, until a formal apology is presented from the dis-respect we encountered from Mike Mitchell of Shasta Pools in Phoenix. Not once has he offered to compensate us for our loss - which to date totals $3,850 in payments along with $1,200 for the finish to be "upgraded" from the 3M finish that was known before the pool was built to be defective! Also, we've drained and filled the pool three times now, at a total cost of $330.00.

Unbelievable. All we get in return is an assurnce that we have imagined all of this according to Mr. Mitchell.

Yeah, go ahead, sign the contract and watch your money to up in smoke. Shasta is a joke. My neighbor contracted his own pool - and it's magnificent. At a fraction of my cost for a pool HALF the size.

More on this as time progresses. Mr. Mitchell - all you had to do was come out and see this for yourself. You were invited. But your pompous attitude has resulted in this mess.

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AUTHOR: Barry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 27, 2008

Well, they tried AGAIN today to "fix" the situation. I called Shasta at 3PM to ask them exactly what they had "accomplished" today when they were at my pool. According to Shasta, the tile was supposedly cleaned, the interior finish was removed from the decking, the garbage was all picked up, the floor cleaning heads and drains were re-installed, and the pool was filling with water.

In REALITY - nothing changed since yesterday, the tile is a mess, the decking is a mess, the garbage is all over, and nothing was re-installed. The only change is sludge in the bottom of the pool.

I must still be "seeing things". This is unbelievable. I was told by M Mitchell this would be completed today by his star 20 years experienced crew.

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AUTHOR: Barry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 27, 2008

Well, they tried AGAIN today to "fix" the situation. I called Shasta at 3PM to ask them exactly what they had "accomplished" today when they were at my pool. According to Shasta, the tile was supposedly cleaned, the interior finish was removed from the decking, the garbage was all picked up, the floor cleaning heads and drains were re-installed, and the pool was filling with water.

In REALITY - nothing changed since yesterday, the tile is a mess, the decking is a mess, the garbage is all over, and nothing was re-installed. The only change is sludge in the bottom of the pool.

I must still be "seeing things". This is unbelievable. I was told by M Mitchell this would be completed today by his star 20 years experienced crew.

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AUTHOR: Barry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 27, 2008

Well, they tried AGAIN today to "fix" the situation. I called Shasta at 3PM to ask them exactly what they had "accomplished" today when they were at my pool. According to Shasta, the tile was supposedly cleaned, the interior finish was removed from the decking, the garbage was all picked up, the floor cleaning heads and drains were re-installed, and the pool was filling with water.

In REALITY - nothing changed since yesterday, the tile is a mess, the decking is a mess, the garbage is all over, and nothing was re-installed. The only change is sludge in the bottom of the pool.

I must still be "seeing things". This is unbelievable. I was told by M Mitchell this would be completed today by his star 20 years experienced crew.

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Shasta Update

AUTHOR: Barry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 27, 2008

Well, they tried AGAIN today to "fix" the situation. I called Shasta at 3PM to ask them exactly what they had "accomplished" today when they were at my pool. According to Shasta, the tile was supposedly cleaned, the interior finish was removed from the decking, the garbage was all picked up, the floor cleaning heads and drains were re-installed, and the pool was filling with water.

In REALITY - nothing changed since yesterday, the tile is a mess, the decking is a mess, the garbage is all over, and nothing was re-installed. The only change is sludge in the bottom of the pool.

I must still be "seeing things". This is unbelievable. I was told by M Mitchell this would be completed today by his star 20 years experienced crew.

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