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Report: #1536066

Complaint Review: Amazon - Seattle Washington

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  • Reported By: Jeff — United States
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  • Amazon 202 Westlake Ave N Ste 2, Seattle, Washington United States

Amazon FAIL TO REFUND MONEY ON PRODUCT THEY LOST IN TRANST Seattle Washington

*Author of original report: NO SANCTIONS

*General Comment: Sanctions

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This is a complaint alleging breach of contract and fraud against AMAZON. The facts are as follows.

On January 15, 2025, I placed  ORDER #114-7737609-3365031 with AMAZON to deliver birthday gifts to a friend. The total price was $405 and expected delivery was January 21. My credit card was billed for the full amount on January 17, and the products allegedly shipped the next day.

Nothing arrived on the 21st but I received a message that delivery was delayed until January 24. I was offered to start a refund, but heard there were storms along the east coast so decided to be patient. As of January 27, AMAZON’s website showed the gifts still in transit, with no new delivery date projected, so I decided to request proof of delivery or a refund.

AMAZON’s chat feature promises to go at your own pace, but does not tell users that AMAZON employees can end the chat when they want, erase the chat history, and block you from getting a transcript. Once in chat, I was subject to a revolving door of employees who refused to answer basic questions to escalate my concerns or provide any documentation about order status. I was told that in order to process a refund, AMAZON needed my ID and then had to conduct an ‘investigation’ to prevent fraud or abuse, but there is no federal law requiring need for an ID when an item is ordered but never delivered. Plus, as AMAZON  did not require an ID when my credit card was charged, all AMAZON had to do was return the funds in the same way they were taken.

Inasmuch as AMAZON  has been breached multiple times, I refused to submit an ID, nor was there any need to do so. Plus, there is nothing to investigate—if the gifts were delivered, then AMAZON needed to prove delivery; as of FEBRUARY 11, their website shows no updates other than the items were probably ‘lost’ in transit, so there is nothing more to investigate. Rather than answer questions about where my order is, employees ended the chats and disappeared and refuse to make good.

This behavior is unacceptable and constitutes fraud,

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#2 Author of original report

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AUTHOR: Jeff - (United States)

POSTED: Sunday, February 16, 2025

First, the OFAC list has been searched and neither my name nor the name of the party to be delivered appears on any list, so this rebuttal claim is unsupported nonsense.

Second, AMAZON did not cite sanctions as a reason not to deliver a product paid for, and the evidence shows only that AMAZON cannot find the product allegedly shipped but not delivered. This is confirmed over and over in the evidence, where AMAZON made one allegation and then hastily withdrew it once the allegation could not be substantiated, and has refused multiple times to provide any proof of delivery. The allegation email sent me is cut and paste from what AMAZON sends to other users to delay or refuse refunds, so it is a corporate ploy.

Third, other users have reported AMAZON using this ID tactic to delay or refuse refunds, while unlawfully collecting personal ID  data to send to a third company that AMAZON does not want to identify.

Fourth, AMAZON's only refund policy applies to physical returns where there is a suspicion of fraud--it does not mention the need for an ID when the product is lost by AMAZON so that there is nothing to return. Thus, this is a contract question--when a party pays for something never delivered, then the contract is null and void and any monies are returned to the same account where the monies were taken, which is all that is asked here.

Fifth, a law firm is investigating AMAZON for imposing this policy and whether a class action lawsuit needs to be filed.

Sixth, a complaint has been filed by me against AMAZON to the FTC, REPORT #183777972.

Finally, as this anonymous rebuttal has no basis in fact or law, it should be deleted.

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AUTHOR: Flint - (United States)

POSTED: Saturday, February 15, 2025

 Let's see, you are sending the goods to a freight forwarder and the recipient last name matches someone on the OFAC sanctions list so I suspect that's the real reason this package is lost and they need ID. And Amazon is certainly free to ask for ID to prevent fraud or detect export control violations.

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