policy 5 TJ Williams Takes my money, wastes my time; What do I get in return? Lies, excuses, 0 leads and still no money!!! Internet

Get a real job? O by that you mean company. Second Like you probably already know by now you got your refund. You obviously dont know how merchant accounts work. I never received your 300 dollars my merchant account never gave it to me, theres a time in between where you wait for them to deposit the money. I refunded it before that time, they swore to me in costumer service they refunded it. i was just as angry and frustrated as you were but you turn to insults thinking you were affecting me. Thats not even a company anymore and im on here explaining this to you so obviously I take responsibility. This internet age and the time we live in just affords people to make things seem how they want so this is why Im dealing with this issue. You need to post that you received your refund here

Just the fact that you have to "bet", as opposed to actually KNOWING, as to what happened with the money that YOU took out of my account, just further proves how clueless and lacking in responsibility you are.  And FYI, I have yet to receive any refund, and as such, I am trying to file a claim through my bank just the like many others who have made the mistake of giving you their payment information.

So you really tell yourself that I BEGGED you for leads?  Is that really how your little mind makes sense of the situation?  So let's go over this one more time...  You take my money.  You supposedly refund my money the day after you took it out because you screwed up.  1 week later with still no refund, I straight up tell you to give me my money or give me leads and you think that situation was me begging you for a favor?!  Yeah sure, TJ. Whatever lets you sleep at night.

And, don't worry about me.  My business is doing just fine despite having to endure dealing with you and your so called company.  At least I don't have all these ripoff complaints from customers AND employees that I have to deal with! 

Oh, and here are some more words of wisdom for you.  GET A REAL JOB AND STOP RIPPING PEOPLE OFF!!!

Shut up, you could let Framers corp read this and I wouldnt give a sh*. Obviously im not trying to be professional dumb a*s. You called my company a fraud with no base so I came to show you a liar. Notice how you didnt speak about any of the claims I made because you know what i said is true. your only problem is you got your feelings hurt because I didnt cradle you and say O no the baby needs some leads. I told you tough luck wait for the refund in a few days. No mention of that huh? I bet you got that refund liar. Bet you have that money. Isnt that why you came on here? Policy 5 stole your money liar. No we didnt and my post talked about that issue. As to your jargon about me being unethical and unprofessional... my gosh man who made some lame producing agent whos probably going to lose his agency in a few months for low production the notary of my performance as a business man? I didnt and I think thats what counts. Point is I dont give a d**n about what you think about me. What i care about is your bullsh* (yeah I cursed) remarks about our integrity. But as a wise person told me tonight, cant defend your integrity with someone who doesnt have any themselves, you'll never admit that you got your money days later and that I was telling you the d**n truth and you jumped to conclusions and got your feelings hurt. Dont try to grade me dude i didnt give you that role. Go meet your quota

I, too, also wish that we could upload voice recordings to this website so everyone can hear the raging voicemail that you left me yesterday calling me every profanity in the book, while making threats to write complaints about me; really classy stuff.  But the fact is there are several separate incidents of you abusing peoples trust and resources on this and other sites like the Better Business Bureau, and it's just sad that you cope with this situation by thinking you are going to get revenge on everyone by making complaints about complaints.

TJ, I am glad that you are responding to all of the complaints about you on this site, because you always end up reaffirming all of our descriptions of you being completely unprofessional and unethical.  Maturity, is another department in which you are completely lacking.  You don't even have the sense, to pause and take a deep breath, during your raging and mostly incoherent rants, to realize that you are actually doing yourself a disservice by conducting yourself in such a manner.  You literally sound like stuck up brat right out of high school.  Do you really expect people to take you seriously as a business person when you address complaints in way like you won a radio contest by doing a shoutout to your kid?  No, TJ, that's because you are not a business person.  In fact you are the antithesis to what a business person should be.  And I really hope your kid is not reading your comments because frankly, all you do is further embarrassment yourself.

First off this one is for my son because I could give a crap about what any of you pissed off psychos think about what we are doing and have done. 

Cameron this goes to show that even when you are trying to help someone that they will still turn on you and try to blur your reputation. This guy purchased leads from us and SAIL PAY the merchant processor had to refund his money because of an error. I called this man and told him this he begged and begged and begged me to let him get leads and pay later, good thing I didnt because look at this tiger go hes on here talking crap. Boy the internet today needs to quit, I swear. Anywho I told this man Jamie Cruz is his name that SAIL PAY was refunding him and to get the refund probably the next day and GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR HIS LEADS. At the time CAMERON im faced with countless chargebacks because my whole s**t collapsed because our business runs off of the money we bring in and because of an employee I hired that sold all of these people you see complaining here that did things like not put agents on the calendar while im trying to run the call center we had agents chargeback rightfully and the funding got screwed up. So all these people are from the same time period. This man shouldn't even be on here, hes mad because i didnt give him free leads but i COULDN'T IM NOT RICH AND I DIDNT THINK YOU WOULD PAY ME.  

AND ITS GOOD THAT YOUR CALLING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WE HAVE RECORDS TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE HONOR AND INTEGRITY AND THAT SADLY THESE PEOPLE ARE SEVERELY MISTAKEN, WE ARE THE ONLY COMPANY WITH SOME OF THE PERKS WE GIVE. WE ACTUALLY CARE, IF I DIDNT WHY WOULD I BE ON HERE. AND WHY DONT YOU STOP LYING I DIDNT SELL YOU THE SERVICE MAN, STOP YOUR BS. 


Anyways Cameron your dad is not a fraud or what ever these pissed people want to say, we legitimately hire callers to call leads and give them to agents and not one of them was faked. When things got under funded we postponed the accounts and this is why they are pissed by making someone wait does not make you a phony. Here is the email to back up my claim and this number in the email is callable. Cameron I even provided this man with an audio recording of the Sail Pay support person promising me to have the issue taken care of he even mentions Jamie Cruz. This man is a liar and im going to make sure he doesnt attacks the next mans honor when its undue. 


Im off to review Mr Cruz on every site possible - here Sail Pays letter. I wish i could post the audio I gave to Jamie Cruz Cam but they dont let you on this site. 

Dear Mr. Williams, We tried contacting you at the number you provided us last night but no one picked up. We wanted to let you know that the refund was not able to go out today due to persisting technical problems with our gateway. We have made your issue our number one priority amongst our developers and analysts and we are working to resolve this issue. At this point there is nothing that we can do other than wait for our developers to fix the problem. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you and your customer.
We will be in touch with you tomorrow with any updates. Feel free to contact us at the number provided below. 

Sincerely, 
SAIL Credit SupportEmail: creditsupport@sailpay.com
Phone: 1.888.680.4106  


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